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[Help]No Virpil throttle

Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 11:02 pm
by kev11106
[HELP] Win 10 GOG

Hey guys,

Did a fresh install for the beta version update and now have no throttle function. The joystick config sees it, but after trying every number possible, I can't get the program to see it. Even after placing the new hooks. Ideas?

Re: [Help]No Virpil throttle

Posted: Sat May 14, 2022 2:53 pm
by kev11106
Still no joy. The "Control index or ID" line sees it at 1 but after trying -1 thru 6 on the Axis Index line, nothing. Reinstall?

Re: [Help]No Virpil throttle

Posted: Sat May 14, 2022 3:37 pm
by Ace Antilles
I would try a reinstall first and check the joystick works at various stages.
If that still doesn't work share your joystick details and maybe @JeremyaFr may have some ideas

Re: [Help]No Virpil throttle

Posted: Tue May 17, 2022 3:06 pm
by kev11106
After multiple reinstalls, no throttle. Also, the system controllers tab sees my joystick but it doesn't show up in my buttons tab. Help me, Jeremy. You're my only hope...

Re: [Help]No Virpil throttle

Posted: Tue May 17, 2022 8:37 pm
by JeremyaFr
Hello,
Can you post screenshots of the config screens?

Re: [Help]No Virpil throttle

Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 5:13 pm
by kev11106
config1.jpg
config2.jpg
config3.jpg

Re: [Help]No Virpil throttle

Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 9:06 pm
by kev11106
20220518_130720.jpg

Re: [Help]No Virpil throttle

Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 10:01 pm
by AstroNomad
Hi, I just want to confirm that I am having the same awkward situation with the throttle not being recognised, while the joystick and rudder pedals work normally through vjoy. Also happens after a fresh install.

Re: [Help]No Virpil throttle

Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 7:47 pm
by JeremyaFr
Hello,
Here is a WIP of the joystick configurator.
I've added a screen to identy the axes of the joystick.

You can use it to see if the throttle axis is identified.

Re: [Help]No Virpil throttle

Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 10:27 pm
by kev11106
Axis tab sees it, game does not.

Re: [Help]No Virpil throttle

Posted: Sat May 21, 2022 7:58 pm
by AstroNomad
kev11106 wrote:
Thu May 19, 2022 10:27 pm
Axis tab sees it, game does not.
Same here, axis tab sees input, I correlate the assignments according to the axis tab, but the game does not register some (but not all) axes.

Re: [Help]No Virpil throttle

Posted: Sun May 22, 2022 6:13 am
by danrevella
I am speaking as a layman, but looking at X-wingalliance.exe at runtime level, I may see that both dinput.dll and Xinput.dll are loaded in memory.
The original 1999 game, I remember (but was may years ago) that access at the joystick level only in dinput mode.
So maybe.... (maybe I have tell...) that the hook responsable for joystick hook try to translate Xinput------>dinput losing something...
Not all the new joystick devices does support both pdinput and Xinput.
F.e. with a device who does support both dinput and Xinput, seems to be that dinput win the competition-------> my xbox360 f.e. even I would like NOT to hook Z axis( Ilet it blank in the configurator), when in the game Z axys is BTW in the game assigned to throttle.
I must admit: I have few ideas but they are well --------------->confused ;-)

Re: [Help]No Virpil throttle

Posted: Sat May 28, 2022 8:48 pm
by kev11106
Hope it helps...

NVIDIA System Information report created on: 05/28/2022 16:42:53
System name: DESKTOP-BGCJ1D8

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Re: [Help]No Virpil throttle

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 4:44 pm
by kev11106
Any news?

Re: [Help]No Virpil throttle

Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2022 2:54 pm
by AstroNomad
Has this been solved in update 5.5?

+1 for including an update of the input mapping system into the next release.

Re: [Help]No Virpil throttle

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2022 3:40 pm
by kev11106
Hey Jeremy, After a looong wait(my Virpil joystick sprung a spring in the grip and I had to send it back to the old country), reloaded from scratch(now with 5.5!), and got the throttle back. Just so you know, the system controllers window in the joystick configurator has the index for the stick at 1 and the throttle at 2. But to get it to be seen, you need to go to the Axes window and look at the first number in the controller box for the true controller ID number and the axis position number for the axis index number. Also, the axis window is calling my throttle my stick and my throttle is seen as Microsoft PC-joystick driver. Probably just Virpil weirdness. Consiquences, shmonsiquences... as long as I'm rich. Thanks again for the grunt.

Re: [Help]No Virpil throttle

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2022 4:33 pm
by JeremyaFr
Thank you for the feedback.