Latest Beta Release of the VR mod

[blue_max]

Is the new mode used as default or is the config switch still there?

The new mode is on by default now, but I left the switch so that we can turn it off just in case.

[a1adin]

Thank s for the new update blue_max and m0rgg.
However, it seems there is something wrong with it (EffectsByBlueMax_beta_v2021-12-18.zip).

I have just tried playing some skirmish missions.
It seems there are something wrong with the menu and the mouse., when I click single player, it takes very long to load.
and also when I click to change the skirmish mission parameter: the fighter type, the ai or the location, the process takes very very long (more than a minute)
I will test again tonight.
iirc, this does not happen with the previous update.

[blue_max]

I have just tried playing some skirmish missions.
It seems there are something wrong with the menu and the mouse., when I click single player, it takes very long to load.
and also when I click to change the skirmish mission parameter: the fighter type, the ai or the location, the process takes very very long (more than a minute)

Does this happen in SteamVR mode? Do I have to set up the skirmish mission in some specific way? Things seem to be fine on my end. Did you check what was the process usage in Windows while this is happening? (There might be some other process that is causing Windows to be slow)

[m0rgg]

Thank s for the new update blue_max and m0rgg.
However, it seems there is something wrong with it (EffectsByBlueMax_beta_v2021-12-18.zip).

I have just tried playing some skirmish missions.
It seems there are something wrong with the menu and the mouse., when I click single player, it takes very long to load.
and also when I click to change the skirmish mission parameter: the fighter type, the ai or the location, the process takes very very long (more than a minute)
I will test again tonight.
iirc, this does not happen with the previous update.

Probably not the issue, but make sure XWA is the app in focus, through Alt+tab or clicking the icon in the taskbar.

[a1adin]

>Does this happen in SteamVR mode?
Yes

>Do I have to set up the skirmish mission in some specific way?
No, it does not matter what you change, but when you click "Done", the game hangs (sort of), since there is a little window XWA waiting forever for the process to be done.
but if you press RMB, you go back to the quick skirmish page, there is no error.

also the mouse movement is strange, it always stop midway before I can reach the 'done" area,
so I have to approach it from different direction.

I have tried this several times and the result is always the same.

>Did you check what was the process usage in Windows while this is happening?
I have looked at the task manager, there are 3 biggest cpu processes:
OVRServer_x64.exe
OculusDash.exe
X wing alliance 32 bit

the otherprocesses are less than 1%

Please let me know what is wrong here.

[a1adin]

it seems your latest update is not the culprit.
I have copied the previous update v2021.11.30
but the same problems still happen.

[blue_max]

Can you do a fresh install of XWAU? Make a backup copy of your pilots and then install XWAU 2020 + Update 5 + latest ddraw beta. I'm not sure what's going on yet, but maybe you have multiple versions of the same DLL and they might be causing conflicts. A clean install will rule that out.

[a1adin]

that's exactlu what I did.
however, there is another problem, now I get instalation error:

xwau install error.png

this is very strange, I never get that error before.
I have tried 2 times and get that same error.

blue_max do you know what is wrong here?

[a1adin]

silly me, I forgot to install the main XWAU2020.exe and straight to install update 5.0.

ok, now everything is good with the new install.
thanks blue_max for all the help.

[blue_max]

ok, now everything is good with the new install.
thanks blue_max for all the help.

I don't think I helped that much here, but I'm glad you got your stuff working again

[SadSky]

Hi Blue Max and every pilot here. Could someone please help me with my issue. I only see the holographic panel in one lens. I have described my problem here :

viewtopic.php?f=36&t=14044

Thank you very much.

[Luke_Skywalker]

Just put a 3070 in and gave this a whirl. I'm not expecting a solid 90FPS 100% of the time but I also figure I shouldn't be getting 40FPS with spikes up to 50 when I go into hyperspace. Is this to be expected?

[blue_max]

Just put a 3070 in and gave this a whirl. I'm not expecting a solid 90FPS 100% of the time but I also figure I shouldn't be getting 40FPS with spikes up to 50 when I go into hyperspace. Is this to be expected?

Depending on how you configured your display and the effects, this is to be expected. Take a look at this thread to see some tips that may help you improve your FPS:

https://forums.xwaupgrade.com/viewtopic ... 43#p164943

[Luke_Skywalker]

I've actually gone through that to see if that would help and... it didn't.

It's not possible to use the Oculus runtime instead of SteamVR, is it? One of the things I've noticed is that if you're modding a game to add VR, SteamVR is kind of shit because the freelook is all kinds of jittery. I noticed this while playing MechWarrior 5, for instance.

[m0rgg]

You can try OpenComposite, but not sure it will work or be any better perfomance wise

[Luke_Skywalker]

You can try OpenComposite, but not sure it will work or be any better perfomance wise

I don't suppose OpenXR is a thing yet here, is it?

[m0rgg]

I don't suppose OpenXR is a thing yet here, is it?

I started an implementation, got it to display 2D stuff in the headset, but never got to finish it.
It's still in my to do, but I didn't have much time for XWA in quite some time.

But for me openxr was more for compatibility and future proofing than performance. There are other rendering optimizations with a much higher impact, like instanced stereo rendering or draw call batching.

[Luke_Skywalker]

Fair, I suppose. I'd just like to try going through the Oculus app instead of SteamVR to mitigate the performance hit of using both runtimes.